Here are the details of Öcalan's phone-call 2020-04-29 12:35:37   URFA- PKK leader Abdullah Öcalan, who has been imprisoned in İmralı Prison in Turkey, spoke on the phone with his family after 21 years. Mezopotamya Agency reached the details of the first phone-call of Öcalan, who has been imprisoned under heavy isolation.   As our agency has learned, Öcalan reminded 1982 Protocol signed with Iraq Federal Kurdistan Region and he raised a message that "Kurds need peace and unity" to the PKK, KDP and YNK.   Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) leader Abdullah Öcalan, imprisoned in the İmralı Island High Security Type-F Closed Prison, was able to use his phone interview right on April 27 for the first time after 21 yearsand he spoke to his family members.  Öcalan spoke to his brother Mehmet Öcalan on the phone for around 20-25 minutes.   Mehmet Öcalan spoke about the details of their phone-call with his brother Abdullah Öcalan to our agency. Mehmet Öcalan told that his brother shared his comments on 3 topics on the agenda.   FIRST PHONE-CALL IN 21 YEARS   Noting that he went to the phone-call interview together with his son Ömer Öcalan, a lawyer and two parliementary members from HDP (Peoples' Democratic Party), Mehmet Öcalan told that only he was allowed to talk on the phone: "We went to Urfa DA for the phone interview, but they only allowed me to enter the room. We spoke at around 13:00 in a room in DA's office building for around 20-25 minutes.  I was happy to hear the voice of the president on the phone. Our democratic and legal right to speak on the phone has not been fullfilled for 21 years. Kurdish people have also been waiting dedicatedly for a voice from İmralı Island."   'I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO ME IN THE FUTURE'   Abdullah Öcalan first stated him that he did not have a long time to evaluate the agenda and he needed to talk in the necessary matters as Mehmet Öcalan shared and he added: "I told him the public was worried about his health conditions due to the coronavirus pandemic. President told that his health condition was good for now, but added 'I don't know what would happen to me in the future'."   'KURDS NEED UNITY'   According to Mehmet Öcalan, Abdullah Öcalan first shared his comments on the Federal Kurdistani Region as he told: "He has stated that the recent developments in the South (Kurdistan) is a policy of breaking the Kurds into each other and there is no benefit for the Kurds coming out of this conflict. He also said that people of Turkey has no gain over this conflict. He said, neither KDP nor YNK should have a mentailty of 'We shall fight so that we would earn to have a  state' as such. He told that 'This is unaceptable and unable to happen'. He underlined that the basic should be national unity. He said, 'Kurds need unity for 40 years' and he mentioned to the fact that any blood shed there is the blood of Kurds should be a concern both for Kandil and Federal Government. He said his messages are for Barzani family, Talabani family, the people who live in the South and everybody. President tol that Kurds need no war or blood, but peace and unity and his greatest message is this as he emphasizes."   'ORGANIZATION SHOULD BE GROWING IN FOUR PARTS'   Reminding the 1982 Protocol signed with İdris Barzani, Abdullah Öcalan stated the 10 articles in the agreement stating that there would be no more fight among Kurds anymore, as Mehmet Öcalan shared and added the following notes: "He sent his regard to Neçirvan Barzani, Mesrur Barzani and the children of Talabani and shared this warning: 'If there is no unity among Kurds, no one will do anything for Kurds. So they should not trust anyone. The bloodshed among Kurds is under no circumstances acceptable.Kurdish people would never accept this, we never accept this' He also stated that the path to unity among Kurds passes through Rojhilat, Rojava, Başur and Bakur. President told, 'Kurds should make a negotiation afterall and solve their problems through dialogue. The ones to achieve that is the families of Barzani and Talabani as well the friends in Kandil. As I hear the situation in Rojava is neither good nor bad.' He noted that the parties and institutions in Rojava are not able to grow the democratic structure. The President told that with this small scale no problem would able to be solved and unless becoming a power no sollution would able to be developed. Therefore, the President underlined the importance of getting organized in the 4 parts (of Kurdistan) and he continued his comments as follows: 'We never accept the understanding of so-called this shop is small and but as long it is mine I don't care how small it is as such. Nobody, including Kurds, make use of a small shop. Shop should be gross and everybody needs to be represented in there. It should not be serving only to a race or to a sect, that our party never accepts, no organization should be made upon race or religious sect. If you can create a growth in the party for the democratic unity, that works better for you.'"    'NOBODY SHOULD DO SUMS BASED ON ME'   PKK Leader Öcalan shared the following comments on his phone-talk with his brother Mehmet Öcalan: "There are some misguided comments regarding me in person. I know how I give a struggle here myself. In case there are the conditions for this, I will give the necessary response to those. Nobody should do sums based on me. The world know what I have been doing for the last 50 years. Me and my friends in my cell, we try to do what is good for our friends as much as we can. If there are some people who do not evaluate me rightfully, this is unacceptable. Everything is clear and out there. There is nothing to hide. There is a big problem and everybody needs to work on that. There is blood, only if you manage to be the power, you can stop the blood. Therefore, everybody should raise a struggle on this regard and their perspective should rely on this."   'HDP SHOULD GROW ITSELF'   Öcalan shared the following comments on HDP on his phone-call: "HDP should grow itself. The should act big, they should move in a wide perspective and grow the organization span and they should become the power. Otherwise, the opponent side will destroy them."   REGARDS TO THE PRISONS   Mehmet Öcalan shared the last messages of Abdullah Öcalan as follows: "The message that the President gave on our last one to one interview on March 3 was the same with the message he shares now. The President's wish is that hese messages are evaluated and put into action in life. Finally, the President send his regards to the friends in prisons, the families who pay sacrifices and to our people. He told me, 'Say hello to everyone who asks about me and wants to hear from me'"   MA / Barış Polat